Monday, July 7, 2008

GEORGE CARLO ABANDONS BIOPRO!

George Carlo now sees the obvious about biopro and Ray Grimm the CEO; this is a ruthless and shady MLM but this is not an excuse for George Carlo!

This has been a long mulled over, refined and re refined post for us to launch. Knowledge of disassociation between biopro and Carlo was over a year ago but we chose to allow the whole ordeal to play out till the bitter end. It is now clear our time has come to step in since both parties do not seem to be telling the truth.

The Carlo Angle
Surprisingly as this may be, most of the "public" disinformation seems to be coming from Carlo right now as he distances himself. He shamelessly excuses himself for abandoning biopro with his "newly found enlightenment of the truth about biopro's long known bogus science". Plain and simple, this is just crap! Carlo had plenty investigative meetings with biopro, he had plenty of time to become very familiar with biopro's science prior to his support and if not he is not qualified to be a Doctor! Now all of a sudden this highly intelligent "Doctor" was duped by a bunch of slick MLM'ers as he portrays in his site? Hardly! Maybe that might be possible because Ray Grimm and Alfred Hanser are very good at marketing scientific realities and packaging them in convoluted bullshit science but what does this say about Carlo and his own claims of cell phone safety? It means he is no more qualified to make such outlandish claims of cell phone dangers than some scam MLM company.

Just as all alliances biopro or any company creates, the alliance with George Carlo must have been open and making Carlo fully aware and informed of biopro, their products and the science. It is an insult to our intelligence to insinuate this was an oversight by Mr. Carlo or that he was misled by biopro. Well, maybe he was mislead by biopro but Carlo fully accepted the biopro cool aid and probably did so for pure financial reasons of which biopro's CEO probably promised Carlo. Carlo spoke in great detail about the products and science in many of biopro's recruiting meetings you can see in full detail at YouTube. Yet, Carlo describes in several of his news releases such as the PowerWatch.org article; "I deeply regret the misleading message that is portrayed in two videos of my image being shown on YouTube by people from Biopro Technology."

Carlo then goes on to say in the PowerWatch news site; "In 2005, when the data were presented to us at the Safe Wireless Initiative, we took it at face value -- we took Biopro and Smirnov at their words. We erred. And, unfortunately did not make it a priority to perform the proper due diligence with independent testing until the middle of last year."

Took it at "FACE VALUE"!? Are you not a "DOCTOR" sir!? As we stated, biopro presented to Carlo and combined forces with Carlo's Safe Wireless Initiative Organization and Carlo had plenty of opportunity and time to perform his "due-diligence" over the few years he was involved. He did nothing of the sort because he knew what we all know and he is avoiding to say it - it is impossible to test biopro's science without exposing the truth of it being a fraud and why would he do that and lose possibly millions. In fact, it is just impossible to test their products at all! Does anyone know where biopro conducts their tests and where the lab is? We're confident Carlo would never perform due-diligence as long as he had any hopes of a huge payout in the long run; after all, money talks and that's what MLM's are all about right? These people all made great bed fellows which is why this departure has obvious undertones to a more legally serious issue behind it in our opinion. They were all in this for the money and we suspect there was a serious issue possibly even a legal issue that spooked Carlo. We are reluctant to say this but congratulations Carlo on seeing the light.

The BIOPRO Angle
Mums the word... publicly. Biopro had to explain this "bye bye Carlo" issue very delicately to all their top distributors and we are positive this did not go over well. Many whom are no longer running their biopro Pyramid scam or are but very limited had to of become extremely pissed off about this. Possibly because they know Ray Grimm very well and have watched his blunders with biopro decisions since 1995 starting with their Gas Chip failure to their sudden without reason the Lynda Cormier "dismissal". We are confident that Ray Grimm and Alfred Hanser gave a great bullshit reason for Carlo's departure but can not cover up the fact Carlo has thrown both of these scammers under the biopro bus with his public dismissal. We believe this relationship broke up over a money dispute which is why biopro has stayed silent and it all probably breached the line of illegality so to Carlo's credit, he walked away from biopro.

Moral of this Post
Carlo has known the truth or had to of known about the bullshit science; biopro and Carlo made similar monetary calculations to stuff tons of money in their back pockets but scams do not pay!


Update (6/10/08)

Is Carlo continuing to expose biopro's false science?
Before you read what we are going to point out and before we start retracting everything said about Carlo on this Blog, we want to emphasize our steadfast belief that Carlo knew exactly what he was getting into with biopro. Come on, an MLM company providing a solution for EMF? Hell no! Carlo knew... and we do not believe for one minute that a doctor whom claims can prove cell phones are unsafe could not see that an MLM company doesn't have real science behind their products.

That said, Dr. Carlo should be given credit as he has posted new info indirectly scathing and discounting the very technology biopro markets in their products. Though biopro is not mentioned in this "Medical Alert" on Carlo's Safe Wireless site, the obvious finger pointing and insinuation is blatantly clear.

Carlo states; "We fear that consumers are being lured into a false sense of security by their use of widely-available products purporting to prevent disease – causing consumers to unknowingly compound the effects of dangerous exposures by increasing their use of wireless devices.".

You do need to take the time to read Carlo's complete Medical Alert. We are summing this up as, products marketed with the clear intent to insinuate they provide safety from EMRfont> using questionable science could only be a product from a company like bioprofont>, which makes bioprofont> DANGEROUS according to Carlo.

Update (6/28/08)
Biopro finally reacts!

This is a solid and definitive sign this company is on their way to bankruptcy and Justice for All! A distributor has posted an email sent out to all distributors by Ray Grimm after an "emergency conference call" on Saturday June 28th. In biopro's synopsis of that call they expose their desperate attempt to explain away Ray Grimm's massive screw up as well as their extremely lame attempt to turn the tables on Carlo and pull themselves out from under the biopro bus. The funny thing is, this was two crooks at odds with their own deals, how damn ironic is that!

This is a great sign because after more than a year of near silence from biopro they are now forced to tell their distributors "the biopro truth". We think its obvious, they have lost HUGE in new sign-ups and have also lost enough "top level distributors" to hurt them financially. This was a desperate attempt to keep their statuesque, an attempt to put it to rest and a great sign that they may be on the verge of going out of business. If not they would have continued to stay in silent mode.

This is also proof that scams do not pay anymore and that desperate desires for making quick and easy money no longer works in today's world of the Internet.

Read their lame email here: http://bioproscam.wordpress.com/

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

George Carlo leaving was a huge blow
to Biopro. He was their number one
claim to credibility. They must have
had a very hard time in giving an
explanation for his departure. Of
course in these kinds of situations
the actual reason he left and the
reason given to the distributors are
vastly different. I noticed that
many distributors who have personal
websites to sell the products are still using George Carlo's name to
try to build credibility. If I were him I would get a lawyer and
put a stop to it since he is not
associated with the company anymore. Of course he has already
done significant damage to his pro-
fessional reputation and may never
recover from it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with everything you say but the hard time explaining. They are MLM Marketing experts also known as professional bullshit artists. Where they had and are still having a problem is finding a replacement of which they never will.

Mark D said...

Listen to Biopro stories on what happens to Dr. George Carlo.

Visit Biopro one day and see what proven does they have. It is proven
and I was tested it in January. The cell chip does work. I was there and were you there? Of course not, it mean you are BS and you are not being honest to yourself. You need to find out the fact first before jumping over the bridge. Think about this, if you had a company that is proven technology, and one day someone who worked for you quit, and said bad things about your company outside of your company, I am sure you will be piss off.

MLM is no different from anything else.

MLM is a great tool, unless you do it right and work harder and do not quit. Warren Buffet once said that Network Level Marketing is the best way to invest. If you quit, then it is your fault. Do not blame the company.

You have to look at two different attitudes. Good or bad and there is no gray. It is either black or white. Most people have black because they are angry, want to blame other, they do not want to work and they want to lie to make themselves feel good. Inside the heart they are unhappy and angry. Look around and be smart!!!!!

Biopro is not a scam. A person who lies about this, is fully a scam themselves.

EMF - EMOTIONALLY MANUFACTURED FRAUD said...

You were tested with what? You then say the writer of this blog "is not being honest with themselves". This is SCIENCE your marketing to the public you moron!

SHOW THE PROOF! Stop saying you have "proven technology" when that is a LIE!

MLM is MUCH different than everything else. MLM's do not have to meet any burden of proof like all other companies and industries specially in medical and electronics - this is why you have that stupid disclosure all over your Website!

The "different attitudes" paragraph is a PERFECT description for biopro! Pissed off that people today are not so stupid to fall for a scam because they have more available information to inform themselves and avoid such a blatant scam. Pissed off at people like us with this technology to freely speak and expose this fraud!

Who is really pissed of is YOU BIOPRO because your fraud is being exposed! Thank you for your post biopro and showing proof you are the ones pissed off your scam is not working!

Anonymous said...

George Carlo clearly states that mret
used by Biopro is science fiction.
You can go to the powerwatch website
and read about it. The Link is on
this blog on the section about George
Carlo leaving Biopro. As to Mark d
saying he was tested. My only guess
is that he was referring to the meridian stress test. As far as my
research goes the meridian stress
test is meaningless. It is not
recognized by any reputable medical
or scientific organization. Besides
it is very easy to manipulate the
results from a unit like that. As
to the replacement for George Carlo
it looks like his spot has been
taken by Howard W. Fisher. One
thing that most people have not
noticed is that he is a Chiropractor and not a medical Doctor. Even an average medical
doctor would be smart enough to not
associate themselves and to endorse
a product that is purely science
fiction and unproven.

IS BIOPRO A FALSE SENSE OF SAFETY?

If the science can not be proven to be real to the FCC, FDA or any Government regulatory entity and biopro must post a disclaimer as ordered by Federal Law on their site then are their products and self proclaimed science not giving people a false sense of security? Would this not make people feel like they can continue to use their cell phones as much or even more if they think their biopro cell chip is protecting them? Keep in mind the sources at biopro marketing this science idea, not one of them hold an Engineering degree or even close to one and this product is being sold via an MLM. AN MLM PEOPLE! So why should we believe them and their claims about their products and science? We would say you are not only taking a huge financial risk but you may also be taking a larger safety risk and further yet a legal risk!

Ray Grimm is a "veteran" pyramid marketer and that’s all he is. He has surrounded himself with all veteran pyramid marketers. There are no scientists working at biopro or any doctors. If they did have a science background, it could lend some credibility to the creation of and invention of their products. Instead, they have recruited very questionable rouge scientists from inside and outside the US, (mostly outside), that are mainly "wellness" people. In a very lame attempt these wellness people try to lend credibility to this science. No one at biopro is credible or is in ANY position to talk about the science as an expert – ask a “scientific” question and watch them not answer you. So what the hell is this!?

If the science is highly questionable, the validation sources are highly questionable and biopro is definitely questionable... then we can only conclude that biopro has a questionable reason for existence. Lets go back to Ray Grimm's prior endeavors and examine, even his previous companies and involvement was so questionable the San Diego Reader.com news source wrote about their questionable stocks. After you click the link above, scroll down about 3/4 of the page to the paragraph starting with; "Then there's San Diego's hottest stock, FemOne of Carlsbad." This article makes us think that the opportunists at biopro is taking advantage of an unfounded EMF dangers theory, pushing the idea their products provide some form of safety, creating an unprovable science behind their products, growing an MLM so fast it balloons the stocks up to sell and possibly leaving a ton of victims in their wake with complete disregard of their safety if EMF is really unsafe.

Dr. George Carlo was a key supporting figure in the whole biopro structure and has left biopro for this very reason of unprovability and safety. he stopped endorsing them because he too no longer believes in their science but did he also know more? Did he know so much he was not wiling to go down that road with them? After reading his "Open Letter" to biopro executives and consultants at SafeWireless.org you can make up your own mind. You can make up your mind as to the validity of biopro's products, the science, why Carlo left and why this MLM company exists. Moreover, you can also make up your mind as to why Ray Grimm, Alfred Hanser and all the executive staff at biopro would take on so much risk to push something unprovable and which may be causing more harm to the consumer.

BIG EVIL CORPORATE BIOPRO!

If biopro can accuse cell phone companies of being "big evil corporations unconcerned for public safety and only for profits", can we not also accuse biopro for the same thing?

Based on our observations of these two men and their actions in business, their words used to recruit distributors, their lack of facts behind their science and all their misleading marketing material; their greater motivation is anything BUT safety from EMF and more for a massively profitable MLM. Without going into the fallacy of their science, this company exposes the truth through their own methods of marketing. Hell, the fact they are only an MLM marketing company and not a science company should be enough. But for those that use their emotions rather than common sense lets try this angle. Biopro exposes their absolute arrogant elitist thinking assuming people will believe anything if its "marketed" right including an unproven science. Point in fact; they go out of their way in recruiting meetings to portray the biopro business as something other than a for profit company. That its some kind of "God send" to help against a "claimed" yet unproven theory of an EMF epidemic. Biopro then, "closes the deal" to use an MLM term, when they market the company on the foundation of "you" getting rich when we all know it is the corporate execs that get rich in any MLM. Ray Grimm and Alfred Hanser and all the others aiding and abetting this crime is absolutely creating this MLM for the sole purpose of massive profits; not for the children as they say and not for the safety of the public as they say. Their profits are for their privileged lifestyles - a level of lifestyle you will never achieve under their Pyramid. Biopro's Big Evil Corporate Profits are for a life style that has awarded them multi millions of dollars, lavish homes in the most exclusive communities and for the CEO a fleet of $250,000 dollar Lamborghini's! These people that demagogue the cell phone industry are the same people that make massive profits doing so.

So is Ray Grimm and his company biopro consciously ignoring their less than honorable facts for their own big profit gains? You would have to agree this is exactly what is happening.

Consider more observations...
- Do you create an unproven science and sell it via an MLM company if EMF is really that dangerous?

- Do you market a product and science without the requirement of proof unless you have massive profits on your mind first and foremost?

- Is there no other reason to prop yourself and your company up evoking phrases like "for the children" and shamelessly "using" personal stories about children from Child Help in your marketing meetings unless you are trying to gain respect from the people you are actively recruiting to buy into your MLM?

- Is there any other reason to display pictures of yourself with celebrities like Evander Holyfield and Bill O'Reilly but for your own vacant selfish attempt to make yourself and your company look reputable?

Once you answer these questions honestly then you will see their is no doubt they discredit themselves, the science and expose their true desire... profits!